Unless you've just returned from a sabbatical taken underneath a rock, you'll have heard the news that Joe Horn, the Pasadena man who shot and killed two men who were robbing his neighbor's house, was cleared of any crimes by a grand jury yesterday. The decision came after seven months of private deliberation and public debate over a case that could have serious repercussions and set legal precedents for years to come.
The facts are straightforward: On November 14, 2007, Joe Horn, a 61-year-old Pasadena resident, noticed that his neighbor's house was being broken into by two men. He called 9-1-1 and informed the dispatcher of the robbery in progress. He told the dispatcher, "I'm not going to let them get away with it." Shortly after, he said, "I'm gonna shoot. I'm gonna shoot." At some point thereafter, Horn took his shotgun and confronted the two men, despite the dispatcher's repeated requests that he not interfere in the situation as police were on their way.
On the 9-1-1 tapes, Horn could be heard yelling, "Move and you're dead." Very shortly after that, three shotgun blasts were heard. Pasadena police arrived in time to find the two burglars, Miguel Antonio DeJesus, 38, and Diego Ortiz, 30, dead from shotgun wounds in Horn's front yard. It was later determined through an autopsy that both men were shot in the back. It was also revealed that both men had long criminal pasts, including convictions on drug charges and deporations back to their home country of Colombia. Both men were involved in an organized burglary ring in Houston, which was the reason for the robbery that day.
As new information about the shootings was released each day afterwards, people became increasingly divided as to whether or not Joe Horn was a hero or a murderer. Protests were held in Horn's neighborhood in Pasadena, impassioned speeches were given denouncing Horn's actions, and articles condeming him as a "vigilante" appeared like clockwork in Houston's main newspaper. At the same time, people across the city lauded Horn as a hero for the times, one who had seen enough of the crime and violence that plagues certain areas of the city and decided to take action against it, and those people proclaimed that they'd welcome Joe Horn as their neighbor any time.
Arguments for both sides hinged upon a Texas law that allowed the use of deadly force to protect one's property. Since the two men were found on Horn's lawn, the decision was made not to arrest him or immediately charge him with a crime. Instead, any decision to indict him was left to a grand jury.
On June 30, 2008, that grand jury cleared Joe Horn of any wrongdoing and the debates were reignited. Was Joe Horn wrong for gunning down two criminals and playing judge, jury and executioner? Is our society wrong for giving more rights and consideration to criminals than victims?
Houstonist decided to let two of its staffers tackle both sides of the story, in a Houstonist vs. Houstonist debate. Their arguments are below, and in no way reflect the opinion of Houstonist or its editors or staffers as a whole.
Pro Joe Horn
Joe Horn, we’ve all heard his name in the news recently, the Pasadena homeowner defended his neighbor’s property by firing at, and killing, two criminals. Let’s just clarify the degree of criminal activity, the two burglars were criminals, twice-over.
First, neither had a legal right to be here (but, that’s not the heart of this issue) and second, they were busily engaged in relieving an honest, tax-paying individual(s) of their property. We’re guessing said property was paid for with legally gotten gains. Further, it is reported that a plainclothes officer arrived at the scene to witness one of the men running at Mr. Horn prior to veering off (we guess he saw the shotgun aimed at him).
While any loss of life is tragic, the right to arm yourself, defend your own property and that of your neighbors, well, it seems pretty commonsense. Effectively, this does not reduce our society to a “wild west” mentality as inferred by Quannel X, the lack of indictment upholds the theory that if you commit a crime you may be subject to a form of punishment – especially when someone racks a shotgun and tells you “Stop or you’re dead”.
This was no hate crime, and Joe Horn did not go looking for someone to shoot, like the infamous line in “Folsom Prison Blues”…”I shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die”, rather each of these men made the choice to steal (one might reasonable infer from the drug possession charges) for drug money and Joe Horn was not turning a blind eye on his neighbor’s right to keep his property, valuables and/or cash. Part of being free is the freedom to choose – that includes how we choose to live our lives, honestly or dishonestly. We are also free to defend property, ours and that of our neighbors, fortunately.
The level of outrage seems disparate to instances where business owners are killed during a crime – where are the protests? Where is Quannel? More importantly, where is the justice? This is not a question of race, religion or sexual orientation, it’s all about right (or legal) and wrong (or illegal) those boundaries are clearly defined by our legal system, which also allows a wounded or maimed criminal to sue the person trying to defend themselves (how wrong is that – it honestly makes us think, hmmm, moral of the story here is “dead men don’t sue”, which should not be the point!).
Bottom line, in the case of Joe Horn vs. the Criminal Element, justice was served, perhaps the hard way, but, if you don’t steal – you don’t have to face such events. The Second Amendment has existed for over two hundred years, here’s hoping it goes on, in perpetuity. We should all hope “Citizen Horn” is watching our residence.
Anti Joe Horn
Joe Horn isn't God. Joe Horn isn't a judge. He isn't a jury. The only role he played in this whole sordid affair was the executioner, a role which wasn't his to play.
What's worse, Joe Horn has brought national attention to a perceived mindset that Houston (and Texas) is a cowboy town, full of lawlessness and gun racks and thoughtless crimes perpetrated by criminals and regular citizens alike. We can't allow this stereotype to be perpetuated about our city, and we shouldn't allow miscarriages of justice like this case.
Joe Horn didn't know that these two men were recidivist criminals. He didn't have the full benefit of knowing exactly what was going on, that this was all part of a larger crime syndicate. He only knew that he saw suspicious activity going on at someone else's home -- not even his own house! -- and thoughtlessly took matters into his own hands.
What if appearances were deceiving and Mr. Horn shot two men who had no prior criminal activity and had simply made a poor decision that day? Worse, what if he hadn't seen things clearly and had accidentally shot the homeowners themselves, or friends of family of the homeowners? Are we saying that it's okay for people to suddenly start arming themselves to shoot at every suspicious activity they see, whether they're correct about their snap judgements or not?
Where could this lead? How about to a homeowner who absentmindedly locked themselves out of their house and is crawling through a bedroom window to get back in? Or to teenagers playing harmless pranks on a friend's lawn at night, creeping through the bushes to TP the trees and house? Should we shoot at them, too?
Even worse, Mr. Horn clearly indicated that this shooting was premeditated when he grabbed his shotgun and said the words: "I'm gonna shoot" and "I'm not going to let them get away with this." He wasn't confronted by these men; they never even would have known Mr. Horn was a witness to the entire robbery if he hadn't inserted himself into the situation with a shotgun. He wasn't defending his property. He wasn't defending his life. He was barely defending his neighbor's property.
He was clearly and concisely making a decision to kill these two men, just as one would decide to make a sandwich. He informed someone of this -- in a taped phone call, no less -- walked outside and shot two men down. He made the arbitrary decision that day that our legal system, our justice system, our rights as American citizens to due process and a fair trial by a jury of our peers was worthless. He made the decision to kill those men, and to ignore the Fifth Amendment as if it were just a piece of garbage.
And we let him get away with it.
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For me, this is a gray enough area that I am happy to accept whatever the grand jury decided. Without knowing what all evidence was considered, I can certainly see myself being swayed either way.
I'm not a big fan of guns or vigilantes or Pasadena, but I am a big believer that you forfeit most of your rights when you break into someone's house. And most of us are probably in agreement that if it's YOUR house that's been broken into, you are entitled to get medieval on the burglar's ass, if you so choose.
In my mind, defending your next-door neighbor's home with deadly force could be argued to be an extension of defending your own home, i.e. you might reasonably believe that letting that crime in progress right next door go unchallenged could pose a threat to your own property. Maybe your house is next. Maybe it's on their escape route. Maybe they'll enter your home to hide out from the cops and take you and your wife, Judy Davis, hostage.
On the other hand, if you're out walking your shotgun and you shoot a couple of burglars 2 blocks away from home, I'd certainly see that as a vigilante run amok.
So, for me, it's a gray area, and it starts at the front door and goes maybe one or two houses in either direction.
If it’s morally wrong to kill anyone, then it’s morally wrong to kill anyone. Period.
"If it’s morally wrong to kill anyone, then it’s morally wrong to kill anyone. Period."
Using that logic it would be immoral to kill someone who was trying to kill you. Not a lot of sense there.
But, based upon whose morals? The Ten Commandments include both "Thou Shalt Not Steal" and "Thou Shalt Not Kill" and I've assumed that they all bear equal weight. Hammurabi called for an "eye for an eye" - so, our justice system has made progress, albeit if we started caning or hacking off the hands of thieves, perhaps we'd have fewer of them. Time incarcerated is not nearly so obvious to the general public as missing parts or scars. Quite honestly, it's up to a Grand Jury and they've done their job. It's not one I would want.
>>>Using that logic it would be immoral to kill someone who was trying to kill you. Not a lot of sense there.
I'm not saying I wouldn't, but that wouldn't make it any less immoral. How often is anyone *literally* in a "life or death" circumstance? Was Joe Horn? The news and blog comments (especially the Chronicle's "comments" section, which makes me want to move out of Texas) would have you think that you're more likely to get killed by a criminal than, say, lose your house or die in a car accident. This, again plays on our fears and is a victory for Mr. Horn and other white male property owners in the Pasadena area but not necessarily society.
I lean more towards Horn committed a crime, but I can see how the grand jury, especially in TX would think otherwise.
I agree with Greg, the Chron commenters are the horrible side of Houston.
As any police officer will tell you, killing someone is RARELY the only option, and should be the last. While legally vindicated, Horn's moral victory is not so clear.
Chron.com commenters are a story unto themselves. I'm continually surprised that so many of the grossly uneducated & racist segment of our population have the means to access the internet on a regular basis.
On one small technical point of the Ten Commandments. The literal sixth commandment is: "You shall not murder" (NIV) yet "You shall not kill" is (KJV), but it is widely agreed that this is in reference to murder only. There's a distinct difference in killing and murder. This is a sticky one since I did listen to the recording and he clearly says "I'm gonna kill 'em" more than once. He may have made the neighborhood safer, but I wonder what signal it sends to the already trigger happy in the larger society.
I personally am a gun owner and supporter of the Second Ammendment. Owning guns to me is the same as owning health insurance. It's better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it. And I pray I never need them...
Katharine--GREAT job! I'm also on the fence on the issue and depending on the day I get riled up for either of the sides.
Thanks, although I didn't write both of those arguments. It really was two Houstonist staffers. I leave it to y'all to decide which two... :)
I'm getting tired of all the editorials I'm reading on this issue putting the knock on Texans. There are 28 million Texans, and we don't all think alike, but most of us think.
As I see it, the facts are quite clear. Joe Horn shot two criminals in the act of robbing his neighbor of property of considerable worth, and only after he'd alerted the police and the criminals themselves of the consequences if this crime weren't otherwise halted. Horn is a 61-year-old retiree and the two criminals in question were in their thirties. Horn was clearly unable to physically prevent this crime without his weapon. Horn's only alternative to using his weapon was to permit the crime to occur, which Horn's conscience would not permit.
I'm highly insulted by the insinuation that peace, ethics and morality are not taught in our colleges, as Dave Eberhardt of Baltimore stated in his letter to the Chronicle. Horn's defense of his neighbor's property preserved the peace. Horn was ethical enough to call the police for aid, watching the criminals about to abscond with their ill-gotten gains. He was moral enough not to allow a crime to take place that he had the means to prevent.
I take exception to the implication that we're hypocrites, as implied by George Okamura of Rosemead in his letter to the Chronicle. However, as long as we're making implications, I have a couple of my own. If Horn were any color other than white, he would not be the focus of so much contraversy. If Horn were black, or another Hispanic like the men Horn faced that night, the outrage I see now would be far less, because the media show crimes involving them far less. The presumption there is that white people don't have the same right to defend their neighborhoods as other people do. And therein lies the true hypocrisy.
Baltimore and Rosemead do not have the illegal alien criminals that Houston does. Their citizens have the luxury of blaming Horn and standing by criminals whom they now know they'll never have to face, because of Horn. Their semblance of morality might be sufficiently gray to presume that they know the facts of the case better than a grand jury tasked with them. I respect the grand jury, and Horn, for making the tough decisions so that others don't need to make them.
Joe Horn did not have to go outside his home and shoot anyone and he was not in any danger! The Harris County Grand Jury's failure to charge Mr. Horn is appalling! We all heard the tapes and we all know the facts. There are no gray areas here. The man broke the law. Period. However, perhaps would-be burglars might do well to consider finding gainful employment instead of breaking into others' homes to steal. The price just might be too high.
It's "Colombia", not "Columbia".
Duly noted and corrected, bluepencil. Thanks!